Episode 32 – Paying for College

College costs way too much!  There is the sticker price and then the real price, just like cars.  Is the traditional college approach worth it?  Is it really the parent’s responsibility to pay for it?  Aren’t some majors totally dumb!  Government subsidizes colleges heavily.  Should they?  What are the effects.

This was a great discussion and although we don’t give any real deep financial advice on how to get your kid through college, we sure had a great time.  It was fun to be back together to hit this hot topic.  John had recent experience with Zack (very successful!) and Matt and I are struggling on whether and how to save.  Hopefully we hit on all the issues an ‘engineering father’ would want to hear.

Oh and we went through a list of the highest paying undergraduate degrees and SEVEN OF THEM had the word ENGINEERING in them.  Go nerds!


John – Diversity.  We all want diversity, but are we willing to choose employees, prospective students, etc. based on this?  We all think that is a bad idea.  Diversity is just another word for affirmative action which is another word for racism.

Matt – Motor Cycles in the HOV lane.

Mark – Crumbs in the butter and police fundraising calls.

All that and MOMENTS too.  Tune in if you want to hear the scary story about poor little Emily!



Engineering Fatherhood Episode 32


Episode #31 – The boys are back!

Sorry for the hiatus.  Our excuse – summers are busy.  Also, see the top ten list below!

Give us a listen for an update on the EF Summer activities.  Mark’s list of beer selling gimmicks.  What beer makes cold mountains turn blue?  What beer has a ‘specially lined can?’  Answers to these and other universal questions in this episode.

Plus: Double rants!  That’s right, we have been saving them up.

Matt – Motorcycles are too loud and too dangerous!  The bread bag inside the bread bag is annoying!

John – Buses even in summer.  You miss the bus, you walk.  It’s that simple.  [I forget his second one]

Mark – Tangled earbuds, tip jars at fast food restaurants.

All this, moments of the week and more!!!

The boys are back!!!!!!


Top ten reasons why we havent recorded lately

(from the home office in Richmond, VA)

10 – Summer Power Outages

9 – Too darn hot!

8 – Zombie ant apocalypse at Mark’s House

7 – Fine for ‘potty mouth’ from the FCC

6 – Matt was busy buying pickles and ice cream for Mary (due in October)

5 – Our sister Kris came by and stole all of our podcasting toys

4 – Just too darn hot

3 – Matt deep in door handle debrassification (Nearly Complete!)

2 – Summer pool time!

and the number one reason why we have been totally lame and havent recorded is:

1 – John’s ‘bunker’ invaded by goonies

Engineering Fatherhood Episode 31

She Couldn’t Change Me by Montgomery Gentry